@Gargron gotta Embrace before they Extend and Extinguish.

Maybe they'll take an open approach but that's not really what they're known for

@Gargron Just be careful of "Embrace and Extend". Remember what Google did to XMPP.

@Gargron I'm very much looking forward to this big gardens connecting to the network. I think there's a chance.

@Gargron can't wait to be Embraced & Extended. I'm pretty sure there isn't a third part to this process.

@Gargron Whatever they do, I wonʼt be jumping on board to their version.
Also itʼs not 2007. Their time has long passed.

@Gargron Congrats. You've really handled the #twitter onslaught well and most who understand the risks of participating in another privately held social media platform will end up here, I believe.

@Gargron Have to agree with those who believe it's an attempt to Embrace Extend Extinguish.

I won't be touching it.

@Gargron my hopes are that it doesn't become another corporate take over.

Mastodon and XMPP are not controlled by corporations and I pray to the gods that the 2 platforms are stepping it up to keep *them* from taking over.

At one time, back when the internet was a true system not controlled by corporate, a Jabber server could connect to all platforms (gtalk, yahoo, aol, Facebook messenger, Twitter) Now?!?!

Stop it before it happens, I beg you all.

@Gargron

is it possible to block an instance at the fediverse level

@Gargron one of the key strengths of the open source movement has been it's ability to interact with and influence large companies, without becoming beholden to them. It's the only movement that breaks from the dominant cultural logic to have achieved this, as opposed to becoming separatist in nature. This is why the open-source movement has not only avoided destruction, but has accomplished and enormous amount.

@Gargron I suppose meta could create their own gigantic (and modified) Mastodon instance and brand it as Facebook. They may even try to contribute to Mastodon’s source code and ultimately try to steer its development in whatever direction they want.

@Gargron @matt I don’t know that it is necessarily validation. The company is desperate for something to succeed.

When careful, patient people pick your protocol then it is validation. This is just Meta grabbing at the newest threat and trying to use it because they can’t buy it

@Gargron Well, yes and no.

Maybe I'm still thinking too much about the embrace-extend-extinguish tactics of Micro$oft in the past, but I really don't expect Fac^H^H^HMeta to have seen the light and all of a sudden give the people something useful that they don't control.

There has to be some plan behind it to monetize it. Which -in itself- isn't wrong, but they're only in it for the money, everything else is secondary.

I don't trust Suckerberg. At all.

@Gargron while I'm with both you & @gruber on rolling out welcome mat for #Zuckstick + #Meta in #Fediverse, serious concerns remain re: establishing “Digital Self Defence” tools, strategies, policies & laws re: persistent #PersonalData harvesting by #BigTech everywhere Zeros & Ones exist. Where's the balance between #OpenWeb & #Privacy? We have TONS of great #digital stuff precisely because there’s NO law or BAD law (especially in #AI).
Asking for citizens, individuals, families & #democracy 🙏

@Gargron Protocol over platform.

@Gargron still need some killer apps for VR. I can think of at least one that is not a conference room for boring legless meetings, but the rest of the tech is not ready yet

@Gargron I had earlier posted my questions and skepticism:

https://universeodon.com/@BrianJohnson/109999817515523341

@Gargron They're gonna "embrace, extend, extinguish" lol

@Gargron
#FB ActivityPub can just go and get forked and we’ll all hang out over here in #MastoLand, no? But not surprised they are using “hot new tech phrases” to sound like they’re with it and happening. Maybe they can try a cryptocurrency as well… oh damn, they already did! 🤣

@Gargron It's a panic signal in response to your work to liberate the social media for everyone. Hats off!