@Gargron @thegardendude nope, looking for a way to knock it down, beat it back and eventually kill it.

@Gargron “去中心化”、“保护多元”，被你这样有志向、有宽容，而且有能力的人所坚守着，是“胜者通吃”时代的清流。
谢谢。

"Decentralization" and "protection of diversity", which are upheld by ambitious, tolerant, and capable people like you, are the clear stream of the "winner takes all" era.
Thanks.

@Gargron 👍

@Gargron
It's a sign they want to start the "Embrace Extend Extinguish" journey ASAP while they still have a chance. Don't trust the people at the centre of the biggest centralised social network when they say they're "decentralising": they've just noticed another market and are trying to take over that one too!

@Gargron The one thing they may not be considering fully is that these things were created as a way to get away from them in the first place. I don't see their dynasty lasting so dynastically.

@Gargron when Facebook added XMPP support in 2010, was that "embracing interoperable social media", or was that bringing over more people from the free world into their walled garden, only to pull the plug 4 years later?

they have a history - we can't let them repeat it

@Gargron
Isn't the EU talking about forcing interoperability? Might just be trying to get ahead of the curve.

Still, good.

@Gargron it will be fine until they use their billions to try to jam promoted content into the fediverse.

@Gargron
Meta has very bad year right now. They loose a lot of audience, and loose money from advertisers. Stocks are going down.

Their attempts to pull users into VR failed, and they came up with another hype topic - decentralization.

I bet that they will try to suck in all the user info from all instances, make up some profiles for everyone and show ads as posts.

I officially declare, that when I will hear about start of their instance, I will block it on mine immediately.

Privacy of my users is more valuable than Meta's audience.

@Gargron That would be freakin' AMAZING, because then I'd get to see the posts of my friends/family on FB without also having to stay on FB, and they'd get to see my posts here.

@Gargron hey cool uh can we get quote toots?

@Gargron yes!! that's the dream! I have plenty of family who will stay on facebook until it dies, no matter what I say to them... I would love to still be able to share with them and see their updates via ActivityPub

@Gargron It will also be great to have all their engineers improving the standard.

@Gargron Do not underestimate their ability to destroy anything that threatens them.

@Gargron or they’re going to try to pull a Microsoft and embrace, extend, and extinguish.

@Gargron you're a fool. i guess ACAB really means nothing to you.

@Gargron love that perspective. :blobcatcoffee:

@Gargron

Eugen Rochko's creation, the Fediverse, is revolutionary not only for the social media landscape, but also serves as a model of decentralized, cooperative activities of many participants for other areas of society. It transforms capitalist economics and therefore cannot be combined or reconciled with approaches by monopolistic, profit-maximizing companies like Meta, Google, etc.
Eugen, success forces caution!

See also:

https://www.ecogood.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_for_the_Common_Good

😘 🙏

@Gargron be careful what you wish for -- im not going to underestimate the ability of big tech to ruin things in the long run

@Gargron And no instance should ever federate with theirs.