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If Meta is really working on a new ActivityPub-powered social network, I see it as a very positive signal overall--my personal feelings towards Meta notwithstanding. For one, it's validation for our entire ecosystem from the biggest player. It also tells me that they don't see themselves as strong enough to keep users locked inside their walled garden anymore. It means the tide is really turning for interoperable social media, and that's always been the goal.

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Hardisk

@Gargron ActivityPub has reached escape velocity

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:sm64_p:​ :sm64_o: :sm64_x:​Onus :unverified:

@Gargron I haven’t seen this yet but that’s exciting to hear

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Chris Trottier

@Gargron My thoughts exactly. They see the future and they know it's not walled gardens.

More to the point, just because they're Meta doesn't mean they'll be successful.

Kodak was an early adopter of digital cameras, but they went bankrupt.

Why? Because they just couldn't leave film photography behind.

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Christoffer B. Tallerås 🇧🇻

@Gargron preach father Eugen! 🙌🫶

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@Gargron I wouldn't be so sure. It's Meta. it's cancer. Even if they start using AP, they will eventualy turn it into closed proprietary shit to shove ads in their users brain.

Very similar with XMPP and FB Messenger, WhatsApp, Google Chat and what not

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David Boles

@Gargron

Reply to me:

"the first thing I would do if I wanted to profit from decentralized social networks is implement a way for activitypub to be throttled unless clients sign up for API access. Then I would require those clients to give me all of their server and user data. Then I would implement features that people want, invest in UX and acquisition, and start injecting advertisements disguised as posts and activity into people’s streams. The “activity” that is pub’d WILL include ads."

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Tobias Fiebig

@Gargron No. It means E3 all over again... :-/

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Nick G

@Gargron

As I said earlier in another thread:

This could go a number of ways.

It could become, by far, the largest single instance of Mastodon and coexist happily with the others.

More likely, it will do that initially then progressively cripple the interconnectivity to other federated servers in an attempt to force as many people as possible to migrate to the Meta instance.

Either way, it will probably signal the final death knell for the bird site.

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Alex

@Gargron Hard agree on the tides.

They have had to acknowledge that the old patterns are disruptive and need to be taken serious.

Hopefully, these tides will continue to turn and strengthen.

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@Gargron It is safe to say: You will be in the history books. ✨

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David Pollak

@Gargron please be aware of and careful about embrace and extend… en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrac

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Aurin Azadî

@Gargron I don't know. Do you want your data to be on Facebook? Or in general on platforms that exist in order to collect personal data? Actually, I don't.

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Mike Sims

@Gargron Well, it probably means they intend to embrace, extend and extinguish, so... watch out.

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Susanne Lilith

@Gargron Man kann sich auch öffnen, um Daten abzugreifen, die man sonst nicht bekommt. Wenn wir bei FB sein wollten, wären wir dort.

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Dan McDonald

@Gargron

Embrace, extend, extinguish. THAT's what I worry about. You're presumably old enough to remember this was (and likely is) MSFT's Modus Operandi?

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Chloe Tse

@Gargron if there is anything positive coming out of the bird site burning down, it's this! Such a great win for ActivityPub and the philosophy behind it!

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Freakinbox

@Gargron Meta has been hemorrhaging users for a few years now. Like Twitter it has tried to wall people off then suggesting they pay to promote themselves... and like Twitter... they are learning you don't have content creators when you force such things.

IMO, if they don't adapt they will stop existing.

Bots make up a lot of their interactions there now. Much like we see with Twitter.

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@Gargron Let's hope they'er not trying to subverse ActivitPub by flooding it with custom "improvements" :S

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NicholasR

@Gargron
PLEASE be careful! This is #MarkFuckerberg ! He will NOT be looking out for #ActivityPub nor #Mastodon

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Eleanor

@Gargron
Just keep in mind the strategy these corporations employ: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

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