@darius the thing that gets me is Firefox. It's like: "Hey, here's this existence proof—an industrial-grade application that embraced the Electron (also: Emacs) architectural style, implemented with a non-trivial amount of JS, but predating Electron and NPM and NodeJS _entirely_ and not adhering to any of the conventions of Modern JS. Despite this, it was/is both higher quality than most of what Modern JS shops produce, and it worked on sub-GHz machines with less than 1 gig of RAM... in 2007."