Darius Kazemi

It is sad to me that in 2024 if I search "Moby-Dick by Herman Melville" (no quotes) on Google, the free Project Gutenberg ebook isn't even in the top ten results

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Craig P

@darius On DuckDuck it's beneath a stack of summaries aimed at middleschoolers cheating on their homework. ๐Ÿ˜…

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Darius Kazemi

We launched Google Ads in 2000 in an effort to make a lot of money. While the product has a loyal following among Senior Vice Presidents, over the years we've made enough money. So, on July 1, 2025 we will sunset Google Ads.

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Jessamyn

@darius I was surprised it was as high as 12th (for my search anyhow) but I skip over video results as "Obviously not a book" (a librarian superpower in this day and age).

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Steven Hilton

@darius Pointing to free content like that doesn't enhance shareholder value.

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Rachel Greenham

@darius @anildash these days for old books i tend to go first to Standard EBooks standardebooks.org (and yes, Moby Dick is there ๐Ÿณ)

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acb

@darius Why bother with the old and busted original? Surely, in 2024, they can get their AI server farm to confabulate a shiny new Moby Dick for you wholesale.

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@darius two ads, a wikipedia summary, a couple more sites and then Gutenberg. IDK why anyone still uses google search in this decade

duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Moby-Dick

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Richard Eriksson :thinkerguns:

@darius Iโ€™m going to use my mid-2000s (the decade) SEO knowledge and do something about that!

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Darwin Woodka

@darius I learned the "before:" trick yesterday, If you search with "before:2020" for example it removes some of the SEO fuckery. Works if you're looking for more internet historical things and know roughly the date you're after.

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Renรฉ Seindal

@darius On Google after Wikipedia I get online booksellers, for the next thirty-forty results at least.

On ddg Gutenberg is in the top ten, after some different language Wikipedia entries.

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Andy Linton โœ…

@darius There's a nicely formatted version here derived from Project Gutenberg:

standardebooks.org/ebooks/herm

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Bill Seitz

@darius also irksome: the difficulty in finding non-ecom-site review-posts for a book. (I prefer blog posts or MSM reviews over stream-posts to GoodReads, Amazon, etc)

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joat

@darius in mine it's 8th. I wonder if Google prioritize based on what I've previously clicked? Even if they do, most of the higher-ranked links aren't somewhere I've clicked recently so still weird.

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@darius
this is all planned.
create corporate owned AI
train it on all available knowledge
then destroy the public knowledge to prevent competitors
advertise to all ppl to use AI, because it gives better results
have a networo effect, critical mass of AI user, to get exclusive access to all the new knowledge, to cement your position forever.

it is playing out in front of our eyes slowly, but also quite fast.

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Leonard Ritter

@darius mo' bi-dick

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