@dansup entirely depends on their conduct tbh. i want to encourage people to explore and use the fediverse and while a large corporation is scary when it embraces something it can also be a gateway to better things. so im hopeful.

@dansup I would not ban them just because they are Facebook. However, they will probably start injecting advertisements in their users posts shortly after :D

@dansup reasonable and cautious answers so far, I also see no immediate reasons to discriminate a platform in advance just because of it's ownership. I suppose any opportunities to engage in good faith with major social networks would be very helpful to grow and develop local communities.

@dansup I go strongly against such a thing, a big player like Facebook using ActivityPub will give it a significant push in terms of exposure and users, banning them will be like shooting ourselves in the foot.

@dansup I'm on a single-user instance, so no one else would be affected by my decision.

I would very much like to be able to follow people from "over there" and interact with them, as long as there's no algorithm messing with my local timeline.

@dansup It depends on their business model. If they act like a responsible citizen of the fediverse, then I see no reason why I would block them.
Also, while it would be great if Meta allows the content on their platforms to break through their walled garden through ActivityPub, I don't see how they can make money off of that. If they start injecting ads in the feeds (which would be like Meta impersonating their users!) then that would warrant a block.

@dansup I don't use Meta products on principle. Too much to hope we could read and respond to Meta posts without tracking or ads.

@dansup i would not defederate them as long it isnt starting to like spam huge amounts of advertisements into the federated timeline or is otherwise destructive, as I keep the instance free of premeditated censorship.

@dansup I'm very interested just because it's new tech and or new social media

@dansup 10 Mar 2023 Exclusive: Meta mulls a Twitter competitor codenamed ‘P92’ that will be interoperable with Mastodon

https://www.moneycontrol.com/europe/?url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/meta-mulls-a-twitter-competitor-codenamed-p92-that-will-be-interoperable-with-mastodon-10223961.html

@dansup it would depend on the quality of moderation.

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#fediverse #Bologna #activityPub #Meta

@dansup Anyone who, in 2023, votes No or Undecided on this might want to refresh their knowledge about Meta's business practices by reading the damning 74-page report by Amnesty International on Facebook's role in the 2017 Rohingya ethnic cleansing in Myanmar:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ASA1659332022ENGLISH.pdf

@dansup @RadicalEdward I think a lot of admins are way too fast to defederate instances. It’s a blunt tool and you run the risk of accidentally cutting your users off from parts of their communities. With the exception of a relatively small number of aggressively toxic places imo it’s better to only defederate if an instance is actively harming your user base

@dansup I don't run an instance, but if I did I probably would. I'm guessing they will keep on without effective moderation, and also run algorithms, scrape data etc.

@dansup I don't run an instance, but I think I would silence Meta instances. I.e. (if I understood correctly), posts from it aren't displayed by default, but people are still free to follow users from them, if they want to. Also, boosted posts are shown.

@dansup
We can do without Meta, no?!

@dansup They'd be subjected to the same treatment as any other instance. If they moderate properly, they don't get blocked.

I doubt they will, though, just as I doubt they'd just open up to the fediverse. Facbeook, like Twitter, relies on ads and outrage for profit. All they have going for them is the fact that people have connections there.

@dansup Not an instance host, but if I were I’d treat them as any other instance - by my instance’s federation rules.

It’d be interesting to know (and part of decision) if they’d support migrating off their instance, whether they push their own client (lock-in?) and if, where and how algo is implemented.

That said, I am hoping (and will advocate) that anyone in journalism, activism or who in general do not need corporate censorship or algorithms to avoid such instance as the plague.

@dansup No, I only ban instances for extremely grievous offensives (basically approaching breaking the law or being a willing cesspool for bigotry).

What I find interesting is that you need an #Instagram account to log into #Barcelona.