@Gargron add the ability for users to filter them out and they can just go on as if the functionality was never added

@Gargron Thank you for considering this. Please consider taking a look at this Fediverse Enhancement Proposal for an existing standard on how quote posts are implemented: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-e232-object-links/2722

@Gargron I would like to allow my followers to QT me. Only them.

@gargron Overt harassment is one of the reasons quote-tweets are harmful.
Opt-out could solve this, but ONLY if it's retro-active, and deletes already existing quote-toots.

The other, far more common, way the feature is harmful to Twitter is that it encourages people to believe that amplifying harmful voices is the correct and proper way to respond to them. But in practice, Twitter has shown that amplifying harmful voices, even to criticize them with a brilliant bon mot, normalizes the harmful voices and helps them gain acceptance.

I don't think that opt-out solves that problem, because the most harmful voices are the ones most eager for any kind of attention, so of course they'll opt in.

@Gargron it's not trivial at all! Doing it safely, will take a lot of people hours to actually moderate, and software support for actually doing that moderation... and more!

The reasons for not having them are valid. So are the reasons for having them.

I would strongly suggest seeking guidance from folks like @timnitGebru and others she recommends.

We can make a difference and build software that supports human efforts to do better. We just need to listen, and listen again.

@gargron I don't know how I feel about that.

We don't want to become like Twitter. Or do we?

@Gargron Count me among those who’d prefer to opt out.

@Gargron Could you start with quote-posts for only your own posts? That would already be quite useful

@Gargron What is John Mastodon’s opinion on the subject?

@Gargron the problem I see is that if someone posts something spiteful or disgusting it gets amplified. Even though lots of people will QT with stuff like 'I can't believe they posted this' it still gets seen by more people than it deserves and the hate poster is happy that they're getting attention.

@Gargron
I hope you won't add it. It will not make Mastodon a better place.

@Gargron I don't personally use it but thank you very much for designing it with the possibility of us having the option of opting out of it.

@Gargron That would be a very important feature 👍

@Gargron I appreciate you and your team listening to the discussion and reconsidering your position. I hope you'll be able to implement the multi-level permissions that have been suggested — not just on or off, but the ability to limit QT to followers, followed, and/or mutuals would be greatly appreciated as well, but if that's too difficult, just a simple on-off setting would be better than nothing.

@Gargron urgh.. so this is the start of pandering to the crowd that just wish Mastodon was a perfect clone of Twitter instead of being something different >_<

@Gargron great!

I hope those.

- opt-out per posts and default setting
- option not to get mention by quotes and default setting
- option not to fetch quotes by following and default setting

@Gargron Question out of interest: What is the argument against an opt-in solution? So that by default the quoting of posts would be disabled (so the current state) and the administration of a Fediverse instance must activate this?😅😇😊

@Gargron

Thank you so much. I came into your replies to ask for an opt-out, and you've already considered it.

You have my thanks, and I complement you on being a thoughtful (and apparently good) developer

@Gargron Fantastic! Honestly that's all I need. I get that it has useful purposes but not all of us like going "viral" from QTs

@Gargron :fistbump:

Hell, it may have been as trivial as to make quoted posts appear above the booster. But I'm not sure myself. Good to have you on board with changes!

Sorry to see people bashing your old toot. Apparently, they are yet to learn that opinions are not immutable.