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I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's

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Horst - no2nd.earth

@Gargron completely agree!

Letting the users choose (as suggested in one of the replies) might be a bad idea since many of them are coming from the blue bird and just want to see the same features as overthere.

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Dusty_the_nurse

@Gargron I think that’s a really good point

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Crecente

@Gargron Love this decision!

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Jonathan D. Abolins

@Gargron Although I’ve usually use the Twitter quote tweet to push a thread to Threadreaderapp without clutter the tweet’s timeline, your approach is helpful in providing an informational firebreak to reduce abusive behaviour. (Thinking about ethics of thread captures & documenting references. Good, bad, Ugly.)

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⚙️🤖Scott’s Robots🤖⚙️

@Gargron when I quote-tweet on Twitter, it’s usually a “Hey followers, here’s why I think you’ll be interested in this” thing.

Is there an equivalent here?

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Spencer Peterson

@Gargron never thought of it that way but wow that is extremely accurate. Thank you!!!

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Kasia :verified:

@Gargron what about the recent bird app trend to screenshot and post? It’s even worse imo as Qt at least made you aware this was happening

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Jae Bloom

@Gargron I actually highly agree with this choice. As someone who has had numerous people quote tweet me to be snarky on replies, I really do think it’s better to keep the conversations ON the original posts. It creates a better sense of community. It also increases the likelihood someone will follow who you see boosting.

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@Gargron I've never really understood the antipathy to quote tweets. Some good tweeps, such as the venerable Michael White, do it all the time.

It has a whiff of the religious war.

But.

Your game, your rules.

Anything that gets us away from an algorithm explicitly designed to promote urgent emotional engagement (which means stoking great and hatred) is good.

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Mathew Oakes

@Gargron I really appreciate this point of view; honestly hadn't really thought of it that way, but it really hones in on my frustration with the bird app -- perhaps migrating here is a chance to alter that habit of mine.

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Bathsheba Blue

@Gargron

Twitter’s algorithm gave weight to quote tweets, and users got hooked on the practice.

No need for it here.

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The Little Wars

@Gargron in this house we do not "dunk" on the bad toots

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Karl

@Gargron This is a brilliant #insight. This is why you are the #boss of #Engagement

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Running In Reykjavik

@Gargron Everything is performative my dear. Especially all these ‘rules’ from people about how to use the platform

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Alek

@Gargron Sounds like a great issue to open up for community governance. I respect a lot the effort that you've personally made to build Mastodon, but I find it problematic that decisions for whole ecosystems are made by individuals. these should be participatory decisions.

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Edmund Lauterbach

@Gargron Normally I know, when I want to speak to audience and when I want to talk to a person. I do not like these kind of judgments. But it's your SW, I am only user.

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Dagonmar

@Gargron good choice. That feature was easily one of the most significant contributors of toxic behavior on Twitter

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James Neill - 😷💙 🇪🇺🇮🇪🇬🇧🔶

@Gargron even when someone wants to quote their own post?

e.g. I may have created a reference thread on a topic, I should be able to quote it into a new thread.

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JenBeee

@Gargron Excellent. As a recent migrant I keep getting the urge to quote-toot, but I’m realizing the many ways that quote tweeting has contributed to the hellish and abusive environment of Twitter. Thank you.

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Monica Rose :prami:

@Gargron rip to me. I used that feature to add description to why I would retweet something to add value to it.

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