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I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's

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@Gargron appreciate the thought and insight that provides context to a bold decision...we shall speak as an individual to provide information and context

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Bam

@Gargron did you consider making it optional, like allowing a user to decide whether to allow their posts to be quoted? And if not, why not put that decision into the user’s hands?

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Haider Bahrani

@Gargron I am starting to feel the same about private group chats

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Yvonne Lavelle

@Gargron i detested the quoting feature on twitter, used to parsphrase and spin others words, and mock people sickened me

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Dr Grace

@Gargron found this initially hard as an academic who’s used to summarising the importance / relevance of a post as I re toot. But replies work fine too… I know you’ve moved mountains for us newbies this last month 🙏 … but cheeky request would it be possible to have access to GIFs in longer term ?

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John Mark :blobcatverified: ☑️

@Gargron this feels like a good one to recycle periodically

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Ale Muraro

@Gargron wise wise choice

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🟢-Jon Agirre-🟦-🟦

@Gargron That's one of the biggest problems I have with the #birdSite, which I think is about to become WAY more performative.

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lesighlepurr

@Gargron I was already wondering...

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Emelia 👸🏻

@Gargron I've written this elsewhere, but I suspect with correct moderation tools, we could solve the pile-on problem whilst still having quote toots.

E.g., if a quote toot, allow reporting for misuse / abuse, and then provide a means to disable quoting for a user for a time period / indefinitely, and only allow quoting of public content

Additionally, education can help change the message here: act bad & you loose the privilege. Potentially even "disable quotes" as a setting.

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Choc Chip Camo Pants📶

@Gargron Well then we're just going to have to get around it by posting links to the toots we're remarking on, aren't we?

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Kent Brewster

@Gargron I love this. Choices like these are what distinguish Mastodon from “it’s the bird app, only I’m in charge.”

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Joe Beehammer

@Gargron I agree but didn't think I would at first. Replies are treated as first-class-citizen toots here so it isn't really an issue. You gain the same effect without forking the conversation.

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Jess Alter

@Gargron

Thank you so you so much for continuing to choose not to build this feature into this instance.

I like Mastodon as it is. I don't want it to become "New Twitter".

Besides, if one needs to "quote toot", then they can take an image and type in what it says on the image description.

I consider that level of effort gives a person time to decide if it's true, helpful, important, necessary, and/or kind.

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Frank Fucile 🏴

@Gargron not sure I agree with this yet, but I think it’s a bold stance and I’m willing to give it a shot

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Sarah Perez 💙

@Gargron is this still your position?

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@Gargron I dislike people who are just a stream of Boosts all day every day. That's content generated by other people, and I'm following *you* because I want to hear *your* opinion on things. But I understand many people aren't good at starting original topics themselves, and quoting lets you achieve both boosting of other's great topics you appreciate *and* adding the value of your opinion.

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@cquest Tu as au raison de repouéter ces posts d’Eugen, Christian. C’est un truc important, que j’ai lu il n’y a pas longtemps, que j’ai compris et que j’approuve.

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Leena

@Gargron Thank you, this is a really great explanation. I don't suppose you have you a more complete set of musings about your design choices?

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