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Eugen Rochko

I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's

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Richie Holland

@Gargron very well thought through. ๐Ÿ‘

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Paolo Bacigalupi

@Gargron I love that decision. I think it reduces the ease of performative toxicity.

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Paul Dunphy Esquire ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@Gargron ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Arman Aghbali

@Gargron Is there any chance a federated server might be able to add it as a local feature?

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Jimmy Hartzell

@Gargron This was one of the worst things about Twitter, thank you!

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Mark Jeynes

@Gargron a very smart move.
I see people doing exactly this in their behaviour on WhatsApp as their anger levels rise and they deliberately throw abuse at each other or toxic gosdip about someone they know.

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Friedrich Moser

@Gargron I think this was such a wise and wide ranging decision! Congratulations! And thank you!

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FelixCLC

@Gargron provides context on the design choice. A counter point is overlapping audiences who may be interested in the topic, and where the quote is tangential to the original toot

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Okanogen

@Gargron
This is an interesting perspective. I'll ponder it. I'm inclined to think not all quote boosts are evil, ill-intentioned, or inherently destructive, and in the event they are, maybe there are other controls available. But it's a valid position.

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Patrick LaForge @nytimes

@Gargron Excellent logic. Quote replies are the worst. People will screen-shot them and so on, but there's no reason to make it so easy and normalized.

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Belle

@Gargron I truly like not having a quote a toot feature and agree it's toxic, instead of engaging a person. I still have a hold over saying "account" which imho dehumanizes the person sending a toot. Thank you for not having quote a toot available.

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wiley soule aka c.soรปle

@Gargron interested in the potential this has for doing exactly as you suggest. Might end up being a worthwhile trade off. Always, always, always being willing to revise is how we stay vital, I reckon

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Mark Allerton

@Gargron Attempting to control social media behavior by removing features seems like trying to design a language in which you are unable to articulate bad thoughts, and just as doomed to failure.

Recall that Twitter did not invent RTs and QTs, users did.

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U. Gerhardt

@Gargron
Makes sense. Let's hope people won't resort to screenshots instead.
@dassaju

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swamilee

@Gargron add the translation option, please ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น

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@Gargron Makes sense. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Lili

@Gargron never had the bird app, seeing stuff like this makes me think I made a great choice to be here though :)

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Till Sawala

@Gargron This argument makes sense to me, though from experience on the bird app, I would sometimes use "quote" to highlight a post from a different community to my own followers, with a personal message why I consider it important. I might also, for example, translate a post from German or Finnish to my mostly English-speaking followers.

Maybe making "quotable" optional could be an idea? But I also accept the idea that we need to use mastodon differently than what we may be used to.

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Fran Stroodle

@Gargron your app is rubbish.

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md_marmar

@Gargron ๐Ÿ‘ โœŠ

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