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I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's

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Scott Wilson

@Gargron But you can retoot and then reply for a similar effect. Except the original author is in on the commentary. Interesting distinction.

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@Gargron I cannot emphasize how much I appreciate this kind of thinking.

Thank you for being a light in these dark times.

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Joel Martinez

@Gargron I think this is great insight and great product development. On reflection, this is exactly what that feature causes in my own behavior, so I'm glad to see principled product guidance here instead of blindly copying just because.

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Emmajuned

@Gargron that’s one thing that really annoyed me about twitter. Everyone misunderstood the quoting feature. It’s supposed to be for discussing a subject resided int he quoted tweet not replying. All the twitter fights I got into were quoted people getting angry at me for having different opinions.

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Sedat Kapanoglu

@Gargron @shanselman people will just screenshot, then.

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Jürgen Haas

@Gargron
Understanding the mechanics of quotes in social networks is really important. We need to raise awareness, so that the lack of it on mastodon won't be perceived as a negative factor. It's a feature 😃. We all benefit from.

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kritist_80

@Gargron Thank you Eugen. Don’t give toxicity a place in the #fediverse

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Ich ganz Privat

@Gargron totally agree

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mary angela perna

@Gargron interesting….that’s probably smart. We’re all so used to twitter LMAOOO #twitterefugee

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CleoMatra

@Gargron Eyeopener 👍

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Patricia Lucide

@Gargron Very Good chiite indeed

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Patricia Lucide

@Gargron very good choice indeed

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Eric Zhang :arch_linux: :kde:

@Gargron ...but but but Misskey has them

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Eric Zhang :arch_linux: :kde:

@Gargron ...but but but Misskey has them

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John Conway

@Gargron I would like this to be configurable, as I use quoting mainly to provide context to boosting someone's work. Off by default, or only allow quote-boosts from people you follow? Some sort of compromise like that would be nice.

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Mike Dolbow

@Gargron I really respect your decision and your reasons for it. Thank you for explaining it. I won't try to change your mind, even though *I* didn't often use QTs that way on the birdsite, and I saw lots of "good" uses. Because I also saw plenty of the bad uses like you describe. And I was guilty of an occasional dunk QT. (Usually I screen grabbed though.)

This is the essence of compromise; not everyone gets what they want. To me, it's a small price to pay.

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De Patrijsvogel

@Gargron good choice. On the other side, the proof of your point is there to grab. It's everywhere, weaponizing trolls against people.

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b o b ☕️

@Gargron Agreed. A subtle but oh so appreciated non-feature. Thank you.

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Keith Calder

@Gargron @adamdavidson thank you! This is one of my favorite things about Mastodon (and one of the things I dislike the most about Twitter)

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Doug Massey

@Gargron this is one of the BIG things of why I like it here

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