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I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's

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Robert Anderberg 🕹️

@Gargron I actually never use it like that. I use it to add context to a retweet, to praise amazing work, to say why I like something vs just boosting it. Not having it is a big missing features for me.

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Sunny (Sunny05)

@Gargron Wow, you have thought this through - great! You also articulated well some of the reasons quote-posts get on my nerves. All I could think of was, the quoter took over, commandeered the situation. And they made it all about themselves.

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PitmiSchmi

@Gargron @IpseDixit okay. Guilty. I shall change my ways. 😬

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Tucker Teague

@Gargron
I had similar thoughts recently. I wanted a quote function, but then I thought about it and about my experience on Twitter. Best not to have than IMO.

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Martin K

@Gargron the main thing I saw it used for on Twitter, was provide the source of information. Something that a lot of people demand if you are going to be "qualified" for any proper debate. Otherwise it's just random people making random claims

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Lis

@Gargron makes sense 🤗

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kimwim

@Gargron This is way I always begged people to screen shoot, never quote tweet. It was always for naught.

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Meidas Romi

@Gargron and i searched how i quote:-) lol

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@Gargron
do you have any data on this ?
Cause I use the quote feature to make sure I am replying accurately, and so that people can see that I am replying accurately

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The Frog

@Gargron 100% that! This was a tool used by toxic ppl with huge following to encourage pile ons.

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A L Katz

@Gargron Frankly, I love having the architecture explained to me. It helps understand the nature of this terrific creation. Thank you. And bravo.

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Randahl Fink

@Gargron I feel you are overlooking the usefulness of quotes. I have used quotes on Twitter to qualify WHY the content I was retweeting was worth looking at.
Simply just retweeting content may make people overlook the importance of said content. However, if you retweet content and write a qualifying comment such as "This is a very strong observation, because…" etc., that has real value.
I agree with you, the feature can be abused, but would you not agree almost all features can be abused?

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@Gargron

Great argument! Thanks for keeping the culture of Mastodon a priority.

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Marlee

@Gargron Good call. It just feeds into dogpiling

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Cedar🌲 :t4lvt: :vbike:

@Gargron originally i thought this was dumb but i’ve since come around and began to appreciate not having QRTs

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Ezekiel

This position is so frustrating, because instead we use workarounds that have the exact same downfalls, but make the platform a worse experience for everyone involved.

I'm quote-tweeting right now, Eugen shouldn't see this, and it's super clunky...

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Janh1 💚💙

@Gargron I take your point and thank you. I mostly used quote posts to pick out and highlight quotes from articles that might invite people to read the piece instead of ignoring or skimming over it. Sometimes headlines don’t convey the most important/witty/thought-provoking bits.

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Ashish N.G, MBBS ⚕️

@Gargron I was wondering if quote toot exists and found this.

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Don

@Gargron wrong decision. Keep collecting feedback

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Zhenbo Li

@Gargron You persuaded me. I’ve seen it countless times on the bird site that someone quoting a tweet with a comment like “look at this awful post/person”

After reading your toot, I felt that such quote-retweet might be adding toxicity. If one saw something disgusting, the better way maybe muting or blocking, instead of spreading it with quoting.

Thank you for your explanation for why you’re against this function. And thank you for your great work at #Mastodon

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