@Gargron Just doing a bit of curation. Will delete if annoying!

#Mastodon #MastodonQuoteToot #MastodonQuoteTweet #MastodonDesign #MastodonDocumentation

@Gargron Makes sense.

@Gargron
If one person is the dictator of mastodon (as you appear to be - maybe I am wrong about that ? ) then what is to prevent you fro overruling what people want ?

@Gargron Back on Twitter I had a policy of blocking anyone who did that "RT @x" crap, it's just passive-aggressive.

Relevant meme on that last point about giving things more eyeballs. It got me banned from /r/TheRightCantMeme.

Citar está feo, pero imposible no es.
Mirad arriba.

@Gargron I agree. Reply to it. Boost it. Or say something original.

@Gargron i kind of like the quote tweets but this is totally convincing. The reasonable uses are fine to sacrifice if it discourages the negative uses.

@Gargron Thanks for banning that. I hate the conversations based on RT + "ironic" comment showing how much better you are than the quoted person.

@Gargron this is probably my single biggest issue with this platform. maybe 10% of quotes get used like that, every other time it's either to boost engagement while providing commentary, to get more people involved in a discussion while not necessarily endorsing (as reposts are often interpreted), or just to ask a question that's too tangential to the original post

quotes don't crush discussion. they promote it.

@Gargron I disagree that quote posting automatically or even frequently leads to toxicity. I have never experienced that on Twitter (but I kept a clean timeline). I think boosting is more invasive: blasting someone they don't follow onto their timeline without any explanation feels rude. I often want to share fun or interesting posts BUT with a little intro or commentary for context. I really miss quote posts.

@Gargron Agreed. Quote tweeting was the single most toxic thing about Twitter, plus it magnifies and platforms stupid. The "dunking" was pervasive and harmful.

@Gargron I disagree, and while I might like my followers to know that I disagree, I very much doubt that you give a crap whether or not I do. Is that toxic? Is that performative?

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That, and the fact that all that extra load required to render the post *within* a post en mass is probsbly not a good idea performance wise...
(I don't like how #misskey / #sospbox implements #quote, and have yet to see a good use of the feature. ever.)

Why is it so hard to copy portion of a post + link anyways ?

Ppl are flippin lazy

@Gargron
Thank you. I believe you have made a wise decision.

@Gargron that explains a lot actually. If it’s a bit harder to make nasty comments and ridicule people then most will just be lazy and keep going. Making it easy limits the opportunity to rethink the comment and check your attitude a bit.

@Gargron a lot of the people who seem to want QT the most are very performative on Twitter.

@Gargron @ChrisMayLA6 but you have also used a system that means users don’t see all replies which makes conversations quite disjointed. So how much of this really is about conversation quality ? Could you not just have at feature but the original poster have a a setting “unquotable” the same way they can make their posts unlistable ?

@Gargron most of the people angling for a QT feature are exactly the people that made Twitter such a noxious platform. they don't seem to realize that 'calling out' people en masse by summoning a legion of haters to a single tweet with no context is, in fact, a form of harassment. even when it's done by people you like.

this problem is solved by making ppl screenshot. you still get to offer your criticism and quote the original post, but you no longer have one-click access to a pile-on.

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@Gargron Danke Eugen. Mir fehlt diese Eigenschaft hier nicht und ich bin voll und ganz hinter dir bei dieser Entscheidung. ❤️