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@Empiricism The problem is not a certain believe, it is what you do with it. Einstein rejecting Quantum Mechanics and challenging his colleagues by showing its weird consequences was highly productive.

I am fine with colleagues being suborn and not changing their mind quickly or at the same moment I would, as long as they are honest about the evidence.

The US culture warriors bypassing science and directly lying to the public is immoral and not productive.

@sou @tfardet @ConradHalling

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@VictorVenema @Empiricism @tfardet @ConradHalling

I agree with you Victor.

I wonder if some people are not aware of the malevolence of hard core climate science deniers. How they have contributed to the situation we're in today - and for so many tomorrows.

It's like how the pandemic deniers contributed to the deaths of so many people, except activist climate science deniers are orders of magnitude worse.

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@VictorVenema @sou @tfardet @ConradHalling

You've struck a chord that is the definite point in this (science) context. Its OK to be incorrect and not know it - its not OK to be scientifically dishonest.

Maybe the "US culture warriors" are both scientifically insincere and politically motivated. For example, some individuals & organisations are about winning social status (money \ popularity, etc) not about sincerity or another evidence based epistemology.

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