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@taylorlorenz Might this be working off the assumption that servers are siloed, or that you have to join a specific interest-based server? It's an unfortunately common misconception. You and I are on the same server, but if you browse the Explore tab, you'll see a variety of content going viral that originates from wildly different servers.

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Markus Werle

@Gargron @taylorlorenz still pretty unnerving that I have to fiddle URLs in order to initially follow an account from another instance.

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Chris Pirillo

@Gargron @taylorlorenz ...am I also correct in assuming you can follow *any* user from across the fediverse so long as their instance is federated with yours? So, in effect, your own Home timeline is irrespective of whichever server you join. Correct?

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Raphaël T-M

@Gargron @taylorlorenz my reading of it was more that a post isn't guaranteed to be distributed to all nodes, which leads to mass organizing and discoverability being diminished. Unless I misunderstood something, doesn't someone on another node have to follow you for it to show up there? So if an organizer posts something and isn't followed by anyone on a popular instance (and isn't boosted by anyone followed by someone on a popular instance), it would never reach anyone on that instance?

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Hand Pie

@Gargron @taylorlorenz calling Mastodon "siloed" was wrong and somewhat discredits the rest of what he said in the thread.

It does seem possible that in the future there could be a "schism" based on a fundamental disagreement on server policy, and I'll have to move my account if I adhere to the other credo than my server chose.

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Matthew

@Gargron @taylorlorenz the underlying complaint seems to be that quote-tweets drive virality and even if they implemented quote tweets on their own server it would only drive virality within their own server, because most servers won't have quote tweets.

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josh buermann

@Gargron @taylorlorenz It doesn't make a whole lot of sense if that is not the assumption...

But the premise that disabled people are "effectively siloed out of view" comes from a retweeted argument about the ramifications of the quote tweet, which wasn't introduced until 2015, a year after BLM and five years after the Arab Spring protests were organized on a chronological Twitter. So that doesn't make any sense either.

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Adam

@Gargron @taylorlorenz siloed may not be the correct term, but I can see the basis of the argument. There doesn’t appear to be any universal reach with Mastodon, and discovery is rather poor. It’s very easy to develop an echo chamber, specifically if you do choose an interest specific instance as recommended, and can end up excluded from the wider network unless other instance users have followed off-instance users, etc.

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Ricard

@Gargron @taylorlorenz i boosted you from a different server 🙏🏼

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Mya Avery

@Gargron @taylorlorenz That is part of the siloing though. Instead of it appearing on your Home feed through the power of virality you have to actively search it out by moving to the Explore tab and then seeking out on your own posts made with a hashtag, which you need to know in advance, and hope that whoever is posting about a given topic is using that hashtag

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