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I'm getting really tired of spam registrations on Pixelfed.

Debating between going nuclear on spam or embracing biz accounts with limited visibility.

The nuclear option would involve a central service that PF servers could query to reject signups before account creation

or

Add a "business account" flag that limits posts/hashtag visibility

What do you think?

Boosts greatly appreciated, your feedback will help shape our decision!

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@dansup I don’t think business accounts is a terrible idea. Nuking spammers will be a lot of extra work for admins, and adding a way for people to interact with companies can be a way to get even more users to do the switch.

I get that it’s drifting away from the core values of Pixelfed but maybe it’s a necessity for growth?

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Ondine Bruch

@dansup it seems there are people here completely against any commercial activity in pixelfed. Others are open to see some categories of sellers (artists, authors, photographers etc) that may use the platform to share their work. In that case, instead of having only one type of flag, maybe it could be nuanced. Users would choose to get only non-commercial content in their feeds, or accept commercial content from some categories of sellers ("arts", "music", etc) or accept everything.

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hansenerd

@dansup I wouldn't forward registrations to a central authority - i wouldn't want to and it'd also violate gdpr.

the advertising account-flag sounds interesting, although i'd most likely keep advertisements banned completly on .de. Not looking to fund other ppl ads with my / donation money…

Sometimes I'd like a shadowban option to keep advertisers to register new accounts when banned. Not sure if it'd be effective though

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Larry Garfield

@dansup As others have said, why is a company intrinsically spam?

If we want the Fediverse to be healthy, it's going to necessarily have some business/corporate participation. That's *good*. We want the next "Wendys" to be part of it.

Clearly marking a business account is good, like Mastodon clearly marking Bots. Categorize correctly and let people follow what they want.

You shouldn't penalize an account "just" because it's a business account. That's unhealthy for the ecosystem.

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Robert Sigler

@dansup I think the “business flag” is a great idea. However I see a different between “spam” and “business promotion”- the former having intentions of exploitation and abuse.

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We Want EVERYTHING! 🌹

@dansup

If a post gets flagged by x users as #advertising it should be officially labeled as advertising. If an account accrues y officially labeled posts in a given period, the account should be labeled a #spam account.

That's my current opinion on how to protect servers from the flood of corporate spam that is imminent while simultaneously protecting small #makers selling #crafts, etc.

Then again, protecting #search results from spam might require a heavier hand. #IMO

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Graydon

@dansup Nuclear.

Then nuclear again until they glow in the dark and you can use the little blue remnants to light parking lots.

(Any legitimization of advertising is The End. It may come quick or slow, but it's The End, advertising being inherently inimical to community.)

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BobHy

@dansup Agree it's better to allow a properly identified voice than to try to ban it But I'd broaden the designation. Rather than "business" flag, how about "commercial interest"? to include individual users who are trying to monetize their presence.

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