@Mastodon Thanks, extremely useful clarifications.

@Mastodon Here is all I need to know. The same guy who allows nazis to say whatever they want on facebook is the same guy who owns threads. If you support nazis you are a nazi.

@Mastodon I'm still confident that Facebook's adoption of the ActivityPub protocol will mean nothing in terms of liberating others from vendor lock-in. Threads will either keep being centralized through EEE or enter limited federation (according to rumors I've heard about), where it can choose its own servers to federate with instead of the whole network (basically meaning it'll just choose the servers that will kneel over to it). I just cannot get myself to trust one of the worst tech companies in the world.

That said, I feel that it's REALLY helpful that you answered many of the more technical questions concerning the Fediverse. This network is a new thing, and many people don't understand it much (even some people working with tech have some confusions about it). So, answering how the Fediverse functions and how some specific things will or won't happen really dissipates the confusion.

@Mastodon Thanks 🙏

@Mastodon I just joined. After a final attempt to get back on Twitter I decided to just join threads. Looks like many of the people I want to follow on Twitter are joining threads at a fast clip. Some of them were on Mastodon after suspension from Twitter but they got their accounts back. And forgot. I never understood why I was suspended from Twitter but all the vicious trolls appear to have gotten their accounts back. I do love Mastodon and will keep posting here too.

@Mastodon @Gargron if I am an Instagram user and accumulate a following there from my existing network, can I move all those followers to a different instance and keep the relationships while abandoning the Threads part? How can I leverage the portability to bring users off Threads to a better instance?

@Mastodon love and fully agree with the stance you guys state at the end of the blog post. excited to be able to see externally posted content from the safety and comfort of my own instance in the future :) go activitypub!

@Mastodon pity you got it wrong.

An Instagram account is required to make a Threads account. Therefore backwards tracking is built in on Thread accounts from day 1.

@Mastodon I believe mastodon is still far better!

@Mastodon
I think this is going to be a really interesting phase for the Fediverse and Mastodon. Personally, I do not use Mastodon as much as I use Twitter simply because the users and content I enjoy the most is not as abundant on Mastodon. I know this is the case for many other users too. They want to switch off of Twitter, but the content is lacking on other platforms. Threads may be the change the Fediverse needs to be competitive against Twitter.

@Mastodon

"XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon."

uhhhhh..... hate to break it to you guys but Mastodon/Lemmy surely only exists inside nerd circles. I don't know a single person in real life who knows what these things are.

@Mastodon given how many users have both Instagram and Mastodon accounts, isn’t there a high risk of collision meaning users will either have to maintain two different accounts (unlikely) or pick which of the two to retain? I can’t imagine merging the two will be feasible

@Mastodon Reading the article I guess #Threads poses no #threats 😉

@Mastodon fuck zuck and muck

@Mastodon on the comparison with XMPP, XMPP loves on as the messaging foundation for many personal, enterprise & gaming platforms. Early on, companies like Antepo were bought & folded into commercial enterprises, Adobe messaging service in their case. A variant of XMPP lives in Zoom. The real question is, long term will ActivityPub interoperability have a viable business case or will the protocol & server implementations power smaller, isolated branded experiences?

@christianp @ColinTheMathmo
While I understand that getting a lot of users join #ActivityPub can be seen as an opportunity, it is known that #dynamics are strongly affected when in a systems you have huge actors and small actors. This is ... #maths! ;)

I found the article by @quokka (on whose instance I have my other account) very convincing, and I am all with the scicomm.xyz decision to choose a #prudentlyDefensive approach (block proactively and, if none of the anticipated problems materialise within time, consider removing the block) rather than #CautiouslyDefensive one (do nothing for now but take rapid action if-and-when something bad happens).

Does the fact that you have boosted this post from @Mastodon mean that mathstodon.xyz endorses this approach? Can you point me to a local discussion about this? Thanks.

https://about.scicomm.xyz/doku.php?id=blog:2023:0625_meta_on_the_fediverse_to_block_or_not_to_block

@Mastodon I am skipping Threeads.

@Mastodon It won't last. Meta will pull federation from threads as soon as it feels it can. Back in 2009 I was a consultant to a proposal to the City of San Francisco Mayors office. The whole proposal was based around RSS and the ability to created posts and feed them between different social media platforms. Today no one remembers that Facebook supported and provided RSS feeds.

Ultimately Facebook/Instagram aka Meta only win if they remain a walled garden.

Worth time https://adamsinger.substack.com/p/the-existential-problems-with-threads