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Another banger of an Isaac Chotiner interview. This time he's grilling Barney Frank on this whole deal where he's been sitting on the board of Signature Bank.

newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why

(For non US people: Frank was one of the most left leaning Congress members in recent US history. He introduced a lot of bank regulations after the 2008 financial collapse. Signature Bank is a bank that recently collapsed. It is remarkable that he was involved.)

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Andrew Hinton

@darius money can be poison

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Ethan Marcotte

@darius omg i had *no idea* frank was on the board at signature wowwww

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hannah 1999

@darius if isaac chotiner ever reached out to me for an interview i would fake my death and leave the country

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Darius Kazemi

I want to reread this every time I need to feel cozy and warm. Like, how many journalists out there can manage to get a politician to say "yeah I did it for the money" in basically any context?

Chotiner: Why go work on the board of a bank?

Frank: Let me answer by quoting Sheila Bair, who was one of the toughest regulators ever. She was head of the F.D.I.C., and, when she went to the board of a Spanish bank, people said, “How can you, having been a regulator, go on a bank board?” She said, “Oh, are you saying that no one that believes in strong regulation should be on a bank board?” [In 2012, Bair wrote, in her book, “There should be a lifetime ban on regulators working for financial institutions they have regulated.”]

Chotiner: That’s the reason? You wanted to make sure it was regulated more strongly?

Frank: No, that’s the answer to, “Why are you doing this? It’s inconsistent.” No, I went on it, frankly, for two reasons. One: it paid well. I don’t have a pension and, having quit, I wanted to make some money. [Frank declined to participate in the congressional pension system.] Two: it is and has been the leading user of the low-income-housing tax credit in New York, one of the best in the country. Affordable housing and multifamily housing has been one of my greatest policy interests. I didn’t go there to regulate, but I didn’t think that my belief in regulation was a negative. In fact, I think it was a positive.

Chotiner: I understand that point in theory, as a debater’s point about Sheila—

Frank: It’s not a debater’s point. What’s the matter with you? You really believe that nobody who has regulatory experience should be on a bank board?
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Dr. Dan Killam

@darius man Barney Frank is an expert spin doctor. Still sharp as a tack. The fact that he could hold his own with a ruthless interrogator like Chotiner when he was clearly in the wrong in this bank situation is frankly pretty impressive. Still left really disappointed he was on that sketchy bank board

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