@Gargron they're gonna beat your ass in the quote rts 👀

@Gargron This is cool. If you do end up implementing something, I think it’s a great opportunity to rethink how it works rather just copying over the Twitter feature. (Personally, I’m in favor of making the quoted post more prominent and the “commentary” less so.)

@Gargron

in a federation how would you ensure independent instances honor the opt-out

@Gargron I like the idea of opt in/opt out quote posts. It keeps the original poster in charge, while allowing the option of nuanced discussion.

@Gargron hallulelujah 👏

@Gargron I missed it when I first joined back in 2019, but now I get the resistance.

I've been saying for a while now that it's important to think about how the features of an application influence the use of the application.

Quote posts are definitely at this category. I believe they have (unintentionally) promoted a less healthy environment that leads to dog-piling and brigading, and detract from direct conversation.

I feel this would have a seriously negative impact on Mastodon.

@Gargron big W

@Gargron 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 thank you!!!

@Gargron love that you’re considering this and giving users more agency over how their content is consumed and shared at the same time.

@Gargron @Sanjuktampaul@mstdn.socia

Ok, wholly apart from my support for quote posts, this is a great general attitude for a developer to have!

Especially one who is now playing a big leadership role in a vast, fast-growing, and unruly community. Nice, @Gargron
I’m impressed.

@Gargron cheers, a good move IMO. Usually I want to add some context to posts before sharing; and the lack of quotes makes me boost less and share less

@Gargron no. Just leave it the way it is. Please. Don’t give in to the vocal minority.

@Gargron Thank you. Looking forward to this.

@Gargron yeah!

@Gargron

make the quote text appended in the original thread too, like pingbacks in the blog, let the OP feel welcome to chime-in the outside group convo(s), it can make the whole attitude around #QT more inclusionary than exclusionary like in #twitter (which make it toxic)

we should improve #QT in #mastodon, not just copying blindly from twitter

@Gargron Thanks!

@Gargron It seems like a big part of the abuse potential of the QT is that the “quoter” appears above the “quoted” which allows them to recontextualize the quote - the reader sees the new context and the “quote” is boxed in to some uncharitable reading. QT with the quoter beneath the quoted might make a difference?

@Gargron So far I like the 'no quote posts' as it encourages you to think about what someone has written, or read their linked article before shouting off clichéd insults. That lazy bandwaggoning was obvious on Twitter.

@Gargron I use quote posts for curating: adding local context and making connections, in order to interest people to investigate ideas/articles that may not be obvious from the original poster's text. I'm a bumble-bee, I cross-pollinate and spread ideas into new fields :-)

With a quote, both my addition (as a pointer) and the original (the substance) are visible; but here, doing it inelegantly with Reply, the substance is hidden in the timeline :-\

@Gargron please don’t do it.